I wonder if a shortage of elders is a factor?
Mrs. Fiorini
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WT backtracking fast on Book Study -High Gas Prices
by stillajwexelder inso tonight the congregation discussed the front page of the october km -the new meeting schedule.
straight away it was emphasized it was not because of high gas prices that the meetings were being reduced.
it was pointed out that in parts of the world the brothers do not have cars so it was not high gas prices.
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Why hasn't there ever been or ever be a mass exodus from the WTS?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inthe wts have a history of false prophecies, including teachings that armageddon and the end of the world would occur in 1914, 1918, 1925, and 1975. .
most of us didn't see that the true point of authority was not the bible, but the watchtower magazine, awake magazine,ministry school and the ever-changing views of the governing body.
the word of god in the bible does not change and a prophecy that does not come true is not of god's doing.
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Mrs. Fiorini
In my opinion there is a mass exodus going on all the time. Recent surveys show between 60% and 67% of JW's leave the organization. While they aren't all leaving at one time, that's the highest churn rate of any major religion in the US. If they weren't bringing new ones in all the time, they would have a huge decline in membership.
It seems to me this problem will just increase in the future as more and more information about the WT comes out and they are exposed for being false prophets and manipulators. -
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Two nice christian ladys want to mentor me ........
by troubled mind ini have met some very nice people at a local methodist church during one of our conversations a woman told me they offer a program called soul care for anyone going through a tough time .it is a program to encourage basically .
when i told her i felt i had lost my whole social community since leaving the jw's she offered to mentor me in this program .
we had a first meeting to kind of get to know each other .....it just felt so weird, like being the householder on the other side of our bible study program we did as witnesses .
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Mrs. Fiorini
I was seeing a counselor at the time I left the WT. He suggested that I try visiting several different churches just to see what they were like, no commitments. I found that advice useful, and came and went as I pleased to a few of them.
While the WT would like you to believe they are the only religion that questions the idea of a burning hell, you'll find that doctrine is controversial, and many mainstream Christians don't accept it either.
Give yourself a chance to experiment and see what's out there. Maybe you'll find something you like and maybe not, but the experience will be useful. -
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Unbaptised publisher son of baptised parents- gay?
by Pineapple inok so my friend is unbaptized publisher living on his own (21).
he is gay and does not want to be a witness anymore.
his parents are jws and very strong.
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Mrs. Fiorini
Since he's living on his own, can he try fading? If he hasn't been to meetings for awhile and doesn't claim to be a JW, there should be no need for an elder's meeting or an announcement if he decided to live an openly gay life. That was my experience as a baptized person. I'm not gay, but but have done other things I could have been hauled into an elders meeting for, like going to church, donating blood, and other such evils.
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Why Grandma wouldn't talk to her grandson.
by compound complex inthat's just it, dear coco... fear.
the religion is not based on love, it is based on fear.
i personally have worked for years to purge myself of the fears within me, and it is not easy by any stretch of the imagination.
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Mrs. Fiorini
No more kool aid makes a good point. One of the big problems Jesus had with the Pharisees was that they were more interested in following the rules than in showing love. Jesus railed against that. I think modern day JWs should too.
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Nov 15 WT - stumbled over a teaching? There's no where else to go!!!
by truthseeker ini just read the nov 15, wt - what a laugh.. so they admit some leave over their teachings and then they say there's no where else to go.
what a joke - they are liars.. .
was it a problem with a teaching?.
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Mrs. Fiorini
I would beg to differ with their analysis. I have more spirituality and joy in my life now than I ever did as a JW.
I remember talking once to another former Witness about the way the WT misapplies that scripture and turns it into self-serving propaganda. He said, "That's not a reason to stay in a religion, just because you don't think there's anything better out there." He was right. But they would like nothing more than for their followers to believe it so they won't leave.
And as far as spiritual food is concerned, you don't have to call a starving person to the dinner table twice. If people are refusing to eat their wonderful food, they may wish to reevaluate what they're serving! -
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JW "get-togethers" weird
by Iwonder17 ini was brought up in the truth and have always found itstrange that people will invite ones that have "fallen away" over to their house for dinner etc with the hopes that that will bring them back in to the truth.. is it just me, or is this thinking weird???
do any other religions thinks that if a member of their church stps going, that all they need to do if have a bbq and the person will start going to church again???.
don't get me wrong, i understand the "encouragement" part of it, but i think that it is a weak gesture as well as i think that it is such a crappy "rule" that if someone doesn't respond to things like this, then they just drop them altogether.. i know a father whose son is not a jw, and he just chooses to have nothing to do with him.
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Mrs. Fiorini
In other religions (healthy ones anyway) people are invited to others' homes for friendly association because they like you. It's not done for any ulterior motive, or to get you to do or not do something. And it's done whether or not you decide to continue attending services.
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End of days indoctrination
by m0nk3y inok this is like the first new topic i have added in .. forever ..
it would seem that despite all of the research i have done in the past that i have this unshakable fear of this economic crisis fulfilling bible prophecy.
i thought that i had worked through all of these demons, i thought that this was a past nightmare that would no longer effect me.
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Mrs. Fiorini
One of the attractions of groups like the WT is that they claim to have very certain answers to all of life's uncertainties. It is natural, when facing those uncertainties, to want to see a world where everything is happening for a predetermined reason, and that it is all somehow under control. As former JWs, we no longer have that false confidence to help us deal with problems that occur. Maybe this can lead to irrational fears connected to our old JW mindset? Or, maybe I'm just practicing psychology without a license! LOL. I just remind myself that the Great Depression did not bring Armageddon either.
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Have JW's been given instructions on subliminal pictures
by art inhad a jw come to my door and gave me an invite to an assembly, awhile back.
i told her i used to go to the meetings.
she said ok, i will probably see you at the assembly.
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Mrs. Fiorini
I am unaware of subliminal pictures in WT literature. Can someone enlighten me please?
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Mrs. Fiorini
I don't know if the Mormons qualify as pagans or not. But when I was a kid we went on a family vacation to Utah. When we were in Salt Lake City, one of the stops on the agenda was Temple Square. We went because it was part of Utah history and was set up for tourists. Kind of weird really, since we never did go see Bethel. We were from the west coast and you could drive to Utah a lot easier than to New York.